64bit VLC

[heartspeace]

You can get from Microsoft - free - 64 bit versions of DirectX, their OS (albeit a virtual machine), and all their development tools (albeit not full versions - but way more than enough to do a 64 bit version of vlc).

64 bit programs are not simply about variables and such being in 64 bit... but I think you know that.

The bottom line is that a 64 bit version of VLC would indeed run faster on 64 bit systems - especially using the latest directx packages (its up to 11 now guys and 64 bit has been out since well before 2006).

So since you asked for a compiler, directx, and an os license in 64 bit to be able to put it out in 64 bit - I can provide the links for each if you really need it - but again I think you can easily find these yourself (e.g. virtual machine for Windows 2008 64 bit, their basic (which isnt really basic at all) compilers (Im sure you can get use to a GUI compiler fairly easily), and directx libraries and development resources.

So although the comments before on why you can't do a 64 bit version are cute, but misleading - and although your view of a 64 bit program not running significantly faster is just plain wrong (unless the coders really botch the f&ck out of it - which I doubt in this case considering the talent) - then there really isn't a valid excuse anymore as to why not put out a 64-bit version - other than you don't want to put in the effort. Is that the case really?

[Jean-Baptiste Kempf]

Microsoft Compiler can't compile VLC.

[heartspeace]

You mean without some work, yeah thats true. With some work, nope, it can. Yes it may be a lot of work - or not very much - depends on how intelligently it was originally designed and if Windows was taken into account at all with that design or re-designs since then. Either which way - been there done that as a software engineer many many times over. I doubt seriously though the result would be worth less than the effort to the Windows community.

[Jean-Baptiste Kempf]

Please, feel free.
Patches are welcome.

[perezil]

Captcha messed with my eyes. Works great though.

It is increasingly frustrating and disturbing the arrogance of the Microsoft Corporation. I feel very sad for those have have been swallowed by the Borg. It never seems to end well for the consumed.

Imagine, the power Windows if they would descide to scrap the old relic and build it from scratch, implementing the good they have learned and leaving behind the useless?

Look at Android and iOS. Amazing what you can do with those OSes...designed with the future in mind. (Of course, we'll need to wait and see what the G is doing with Linux in Android 3.xx -code not released yet).

Short story, Microsoft needs to start releasing some Dev Tools that will allow easier compiling into their OS or they are going to become irrelivant. Oh wait, they already are feeling that pain (i.e.: Windows 7 Mobile).

A true Oxymoron: MicroSOFT - Windows 7 (the anti-micro, OS)

Windows History

Windows 1.01= RAM/256K; Storage/2 Dbl Sided Floppies (less than 6000K)

Windows 7.00 = RAM/2097152K; Storage/20971520K

Wouldn't it be nice if Microsoft gave a base OS that had options we could choose so it would do exactly what we wanted it to do?

So, back to relevancy...
I can perform QA testing and have all Windows OSes in my possesion. Please let me know if you require any testing assitance, if you have any Functional Specifications or Test Cases that I can use and what your timeline is like. I'll do my best to help.

[fialan]

http://nightlies.videolan.org/build/win64/last/

[titan99855]

Are there going to be any more Win64 builds for VLC? None of the builds in http://nightlies.videolan.org/build/win64/ will work. There is no GUI or anything. They either crash immediately, max out an entire processor core and have to be terminated in task manager, or they max out a core and start eating up memory as shown:



But hey, there is no *32 after the process name, so that's kinda cool...

[Arite]

The Qt4 interface doesn't work ATM. However it seems to play audio tracks fine (tried FLAC and MP3), and video (tried x264 *.mkv), and the hotkeys work :



I used the dummy interface with OpenGL video output (DirectX worked too - but it disabled Aero). e.g.:

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vlc -I dummy --vout opengl INPUT

There didn't appear to be any memory eating.

Anyway - looking promising .

Cheers, Arite.

[titan99855]

Thanks for the help Arite. I didn't even think to try the dummy interface, but your suggestion does work. Hopefully there will be more builds in the near future.

[SilverTT]

Would be interested to learn if there was more development going on for a 64 bit version of VLC. This would make it work better with Handbrake 64 bit from what I understand. As of now they are not compatible it seems.

[VLC_help]

This would make it work better with Handbrake 64 bit from what I understand.

What?

[omodecarton]

Would be interested to learn if there was more development going on for a 64 bit version of VLC.

I want to believe...

[SilverTT]

This would make it work better with Handbrake 64 bit from what I understand.

What?

Some of the features of VLC like its ability to play DVD discs are not leveraged by the 64 Bit version of Handbrake because from what I understand you need both Handbrake and VLC to be 64 bit versions for certain features like that to be symbiotic.

Does that make any sense?

[VLC_help]

AFAIK Handbrake doesn't use VLC.

[Arite]

It apparently uses VLC's libdvdcss to read CSS encrypted DVDs (as libdvdcss was removed from Handbrake some time ago), and a 64-bit version of Handbrake doesn't like 32-bit VLC.

Arite.

[SilverTT]

It apparently uses VLC's libdvdcss to read CSS encrypted DVDs (as libdvdcss was removed from Handbrake some time ago), and a 64-bit version of Handbrake doesn't like 32-bit VLC.

Arite.

Right, that was my understanding as well. If not true, then I don't care about the 64bit version of VLC because the 32bit works just fine. If it is true regarding the libdvdcss files then a 64bit version would be very helpful to backup a personal collection of DVDs.

[sr55]

HandBrake does not use VLC for anything other than video preview on windows. It doesn't matter if it's 32/64bit build.

What you are referencing is a Mac version only feature.

[Arite]

Ah OK, I was just stating what I read. Thanks for the info .

Arite.

[kickback]

The Qt4 interface doesn't work ATM. However it seems to play audio tracks fine (tried FLAC and MP3), and video (tried x264 *.mkv), and the hotkeys work :

http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/1936/vlcwin64.png

I used the dummy interface with OpenGL video output (DirectX worked too - but it disabled Aero). e.g.:

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vlc -I dummy --vout opengl INPUT

There didn't appear to be any memory eating.

Anyway - looking promising .

Cheers, Arite.

I have expanded on the above code.

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start C:\Users\o\Desktop\vlc-1.2.0-git-20110108-1420\vlc -I dummy --vout opengl "%~nx1"

Create a batch file with this line and simply drop the files onto it.

[funman]

Win64 nightly builds are back, and now built with the Qt4 GUI.

http://nightlies.videolan.org/build/win64/?C=M;O=D

No testing at all was made though, JB told me the binaries sometimes don't run, sometimes crash, sometimes leak memory like hell.

Reports are welcome!

[funman]

http://nightlies.videolan.org/build/win64/last/

GUI works, no memleak.

Crashes sometimes, although I did not test enough to have reproducible way to crash it

test it while it's hot!

[MichaelMc]

Works great here, apart from a crash at exit and dvb-t totally non functioning (blocky green screen), otherwise, it's great!

[funman]

Thanks,

Can you compare win64 and win32 verbose log for DVB-T ? (tools -> messages -> set verbosity to 2)

Next nightly build will have GPU acceleration enabled (DXVA2).

[MichaelMc]

The Win64 build doesn't seem to recognise the input MRL as valid anymore. Win32 builds 1.11 and 1.2 do recognise the input MRL.

Win64 1.2:
http://pastebin.com/sJfcfnSp

Win32 1.2: displays a blocked green-like screen and jittery
http://pastebin.com/XWjYZxzz

Win32 1.11 (DVB-T is fine here)
http://pastebin.com/gDnQgvt4

Using Win7 64bit, AMD 1095T CPU, with an Nvidia 8800Gts gfx card

[funman]

Alright, we were missing dvbpsi in the binaries.

Next build will include it, and:

• mozilla plugin
  libsamplerate
  fluidsynth
  modplug
  sidplay
  mpc
  gme