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Re: Windows 7 64 bit pixelation

Postby Zane » 03 Jun 2009 09:56

Pixelation is driver issue as said before.
Uhmm, could you please explain this better? I'm using an ATI HD 4850 with Catalyst 9.5 (latest at the time). Catalyst is a pretty solid driver set, and it's been on develop since Vista...
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Re: Windows 7 64 bit pixelation

Postby VLC_help » 03 Jun 2009 17:56

Uhmm, could you please explain this better?
NVIDIA and ATI at least have messed the Windows 7 drivers. Some Windows Vista drivers should work correctly under Windows 7. VLC isn't only application that shows the issue. IIRC Media Player Classic and BSplayer should also display same issues with certain video output modules (EVR works OK).

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Re: Windows 7 64 bit pixelation

Postby Zane » 04 Jun 2009 10:06

Thank you. Let's hope we can get an updated driver soos, then!
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Re: Windows 7 64 bit pixelation

Postby lordmarv » 11 Jun 2009 10:04

I have this problems on vista too (Intel GMA4500). Its because VLC doesnt support EVR renderer - which is default in Windows Media Player & so (VLC uses DX, opengl,... good for xp.)

so EVR support is needed :D take look on kmplayer - it supports everything what vlc and there is EVR renderer support.

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Re: Windows 7 64 bit pixelation

Postby Zane » 11 Jun 2009 10:12

As a temporary fix, switch to OpenGL: on my PC, it renders the video pretty good, without killing Aero.
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Re: Windows 7 64 bit pixelation

Postby lordmarv » 11 Jun 2009 10:13

As a temporary fix, switch to OpenGL: on my PC, it renders the video pretty good, without killing Aero.
OpenGL won't help everybody

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Re: Windows 7 64 bit pixelation

Postby Zane » 11 Jun 2009 11:18

I agree. But try it won't hurt either :wink:
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Re: Windows 7 64 bit pixelation

Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 11 Jun 2009 12:19

Blabla, VLC on Vista works fine and no pixelisation.
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Re: Windows 7 64 bit pixelation

Postby lordmarv » 11 Jun 2009 13:03

Blabla, VLC on Vista works fine and no pixelisation.
lol j-b is funny guy :D

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Re: Windows 7 64 bit pixelation

Postby VLC_help » 12 Jun 2009 15:05

so EVR support is needed :D

Nope. Driver devs must fix their drivers.
take look on kmplayer - it supports everything what vlc and there is EVR renderer support.
VLC isn't DirectShow player, so EVR support isn't going to get in.

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Re: Windows 7 64 bit pixelation

Postby zurie » 21 Jun 2009 20:53

I also have the pixellation problem. I run OpenGL and it seems to be better but it's no match for the default windows media center in Windows 7. Hopefully someone can work up a fix because my subtitles only work in VLC :(

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Re: Windows 7 64 bit pixelation

Postby 0x0x » 03 Jul 2009 17:46

Windows7 + 88x_2_123_27056_WHQL (Nvidia driver) give me the pixelation effect. When I use SMPlayer all is fine -- you might give it a shot until this issue is worked out.

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Re: Windows 7 64 bit pixelation

Postby maxxxp » 27 Jul 2009 02:42

I've resolved this problem using the compatibility mode: right click on vlc.exe , compatibility and select windows xp sp3 mode.

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Re: Windows 7 64 bit pixelation

Postby DOOOMKULTUS » 30 Jul 2009 15:42

My Aero was going off.For me i reset preferences.Its ok now.Currently using nvidia forceware 190.38

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Re: Windows 7 64 bit pixelation

Postby Zane » 06 Aug 2009 23:50

I hate to be that pain in your lovely developer ass, but this problem still ain't fixed for me.

Now I'm on Windows 7 RTM x64 with my Radeon HD 4850 shiny updated driver, and I stil have this problem. OpenGL or compatibility is a workaround, but I'll love to go back to default output module.

Moreover, I have the same problem on my notebook (Windows 7 RTM x86 and GeForce FX 5200 GO) and I won't get updated driver here :(

Can I hope this will be fixed sometime soon? I really (really!) love VLC, and I'd prefer to don't go search for another player.
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Re: Windows 7 64 bit pixelation

Postby videolan_man » 11 Aug 2009 11:07

Since installing Windows 7 32bit have noticed how fuzzy videos are.

Today i tried Windows Media Player and the picture was OK, as it was when using Vista.

Did some Googling and it appears that what i am experiencing is common for Win7 users.

Installed GOM Player. Vidoes play perfectly. I believe GOM provide their own drivers.

Anyway, my guess is it's not the nVidea drivers which are the problem. Likely it's the drivers within VLC which need sorting out.

If this is the case, then i hope they sort it out asap. GOM is looking pretty good right now and may seem better the longer i have to use it.

VLC is an excellent piece of software but one has to use that which works properly.

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Re: Windows 7 64 bit pixelation

Postby VLC_help » 11 Aug 2009 17:02

GOM doesn't install any drivers.

The issue is in display adapter drivers. Almost all Windows 7 display adapter drivers seems to have problems when YUV textures must be scaled/stretched.

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Re: Windows 7 64 bit pixelation

Postby videolan_man » 12 Aug 2009 03:46

thanks for replying

when installing GOM it goes thru a configuration wizard
there is a 'Codec Setting' section where it asks whether you want to choose GOM Players built in codec system (recommended), in particular, use the internal video and audio codecs. I selected Yes.

Off a web site comparing VLC and GOM it states the following:

"GOM’s own collection of codecs is very impressive and saves you the hassle of finding them all yourself. Plus, I’ve found that if a file needs a new codec, GOM will get it for me without any headaches. This is one of the best parts of GOM Player."

To date, the only program which will not play AVI files on my pc correctly is VLC. This leads me to think VLC is the problem, not the adaptor drivers. If it is the adaptor driver then maybe VLC needs to supply/use its own driver (like it appears GOM does) instead of waiting for nVidia to sort it out

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Re: Windows 7 64 bit pixelation

Postby Jean-Baptiste Kempf » 12 Aug 2009 09:08

Why do we diverted from the main topic here?
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Re: Windows 7 64 bit pixelation

Postby VLC_help » 12 Aug 2009 18:18

videolan_man: codecs aren't drivers. This pixelation isn't related to codecs because it exists with all videos.

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Re: Windows 7 64 bit pixelation

Postby SilverPaladin » 15 Aug 2009 02:09

so here we are, win7 rtm and still pixelated videos...
and who is to blame? sure not nvidia or ati

Dear VLC team,

thanx for your great work and this little nice app.
But i refuse to use VLC anymore, seems like you are chasing the buildnumbers like intel and amd did chase GHZ numbers.
For example, there is a little but realy annoying bug, known for i think just a year but never got fixed and everyone knows its there.
Right, the add to playlist bug. everytime you add an item to playlist it play`s it instead queuing.

STOP IT

Get serious and start fixing bugs instead of racing

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Re: Windows 7 64 bit pixelation

Postby videolan_man » 15 Aug 2009 09:28

VLC_help
Thanks for the clarification, appreciated.

With 3 other players playing video files OK in Windows 7 and VLC not on my PC (with nvidia card/drivers), methinks it’s a VLC problem (happy for someone to explain/show otherwise).

VLC is not compatible with Windows 7 :?:

If this is the case, VLC need to be sorted.

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Re: Windows 7 64 bit pixelation

Postby VLC_help » 15 Aug 2009 18:39

VLC is compatible with Windows 7. The display drivers aren't.

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Re: Windows 7 64 bit pixelation

Postby qwertymac93 » 15 Sep 2009 06:17

i seem to be one of the few ati users here, and the problem was solved by switching to open gl rendering, and it doesn't break aero! i have windows 7 build 7077 and catalyst 9.9. the only problem i have, is that uber high bitrate h264 videos tax my cpu twice as much as the default mode. my 3.6ghz amd dual core cant handle a 28mb/s 1080p video with de-interlacing, despite me having an overclocked 4830. i think most blu rays are half that so whatever. frame rate jumps between 30(that proper frame rate) and 22.Image

another pic proving i am running windows 7, there is no pixalation, and that aero is working. my screen res is 1440x900.
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Re: Windows 7 64 bit pixelation

Postby VLC_help » 15 Sep 2009 13:21

my 3.6ghz amd dual core cant handle a 28mb/s 1080p video with de-interlacing, despite me having an overclocked 4830
VLCs H.264 decoder doesn't support hardware decoding and it doesn't support multicore decoding either.


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